Bear Family 18-CD SUN Box Set (2015)




Re: Bear Family 18-CD SUN Box Set (2015)

Postby PirateHook » Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:03 am

Now i also got the box! :D I am really happy for it. I have only overlooked it fast, that It'll Be Me (Long Gone Lonesome Blues) take is really interesting. I wish Elvis could have had such variations too in his alt takes!
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Re: Bear Family 18-CD SUN Box Set (2015)

Postby PeterC » Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:16 am

PirateHook wrote:Now i also got the box! :D I am really happy for it. I have only overlooked it fast, that It'll Be Me (Long Gone Lonesome Blues) take is really interesting. I wish Elvis could have had such variations too in his alt takes!


Yes, it's hard to think of another artist who has so many very different takes (though not always: check out those very similar versions of 'Little Green Valley'!). Elvis, Chuck, Richard, Carl... none of them come close.
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Re: Bear Family 18-CD SUN Box Set (2015)

Postby PirateHook » Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:56 am

Yes you have so right Peter! I have been a little disappointed of Elvis alt takes as the sound very similar with some exceptions, i thought that he would play around more in the studio than he does (But not all of his alt takes has been found). Jerry Lee's alt takes are way more different. I will take a listen to them Little Green Valley takes soon. I have listen a little too the alt takes of High School Confidential and there he sure variate himself. He was in great mood for that film release. I wish he would have been without that 1958 Scandal, then we maybe would have had even more movies as they were planned.
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Re: Bear Family 18-CD SUN Box Set (2015)

Postby PeterC » Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:13 pm

To be fair some Elvis outtakes are very different (the slow version of 'I'm Left, You're Right, She's Gone' and the alternate takes of 'King Creole' spring to mind).
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Re: Bear Family 18-CD SUN Box Set (2015)

Postby Perk » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:55 pm

I been listening to the box since last year. It sounds great! All my best to the guys involved, you did an incredible job! I haven´t heard any mistake yet. This release will go down as a masterpiece.

In a large Swedish rockmagazine it got of course 5 out of 5 stars. So called Worldclass stuff!
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Re: Bear Family 18-CD SUN Box Set (2015)

Postby PirateHook » Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:59 pm

Yes the slow version of 'I'm Left, You're Right, She's Gone' was first called (My Baby's Gone or My Baby Is Gone) i haven't listen to Elvis alt takes for awhile. Some of you might notice that Milkshake Mademoiselle from the bootleg Redita 103 is the same take as (Take 4 - With False Start) Classic 3-15. It's a little speed up on that lp. http://www.discogs.com/Little-Richard-J ... se/6278254 It has often been listed as a take that was unique on that lp. I don't blame them because i had thought the same until i recently compared them all.
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Re: Bear Family 18-CD SUN Box Set (2015)

Postby Tumppi » Sat Jan 09, 2016 10:32 pm

PeterC wrote:To be fair some Elvis outtakes are very different (the slow version of 'I'm Left, You're Right, She's Gone' and the alternate takes of 'King Creole' spring to mind).


Elvis also tried some different arrangements on "His Latest Flame", "Too Much Monkey Business" and "She Thinks I Still Care", plus some others too. But it's true that listening through Jerry Lee's alternate takes is more interesting.
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Re: Bear Family 18-CD SUN Box Set (2015)

Postby TwentySmallCigars » Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:16 pm

I have now listened to this set twice, and all the way through and IMHO:

This is one of the greatest releases in all of music. It is the Dead Sea Scrolls of Rock and Roll.

The studio chatter and partial takes, while not good stand-alone listens, add real colour to how the legendary tracks were created.

The sound quality is superior to everything that preceded it, the packaging is beautiful, the liner notes are well-thought out and informative. You can't NOT have this in your collection.

I understand that it may be a bit pricey for some, but as far as bang for your buck, this is my favourite Jerry Lee Lewis release ever!
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Re: Bear Family 18-CD SUN Box Set (2015)

Postby PeterC » Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:02 pm

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/ ... -interview

Jerry Lee Lewis Box Set Producer on Unearthing Rarities From the 'Dustiest Corners of the Sun Vaults'

4/19/2016 by Chuck Dauphin

Jerry Lee Lewis smiles over his shoulder while playing the piano in a dressing room in 1958.
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There are some classic artist-label combinations that are part of music business lore. Elvis Presley’s run with RCA comes to mind, as does The Beatles and Capitol. In that same breath, one could also place Jerry Lee Lewis and Sun Records.

Though his days with the label only accounted for seven years of his recording career, there’s something about the music that the Louisiana native recorded for Sam Phillips between 1956 and 1963 that will always stand the test of time. Over the years, that catalog has been released in sets that vary in depth, but now fans can pick up every single track that Lewis recorded for the label during his time there.

German-based Bear Family Records has released Jerry Lee Lewis At Sun Records: The Collected Works, a box set that includes a staggering 18 CDs, as well as two 300-page books that detail the legend that was -- and is -- “The Killer.”

Andrew McRae, who co-produced the release, tells Billboard that he feels this is the definitive Lewis Sun package. “It’s the first genuine attempt to chronicle absolutely everything that could be found of Jerry Lee Lewis at work, on his own account, in the Sun studios. For too long record companies held back -- maybe, and perhaps understandably, questioning whether such a project could ever be viable -- but a quarter of a century on from the 'Classic JLL' set, Bear Family recognized that there was a demand to see the extra material found in the dustiest corners of the Sun vaults finally brought to light, and that posterity deserved to have a reasonably coherent library of everything Lewis recorded at Sun.”

That original Bear Family set stopped at only 246 tracks -- only half of the number that was generally regarded of the singer’s output with the label. After thorough investigation and searching throughout the Sun archives (including alternate takes), it was found that Lewis cut 623 tracks for the label. McRae reasons that it was time to make those years complete for fans and collectors. “There was an obvious need to pull it all together in one package,” he said, adding that the box also includes more than just the classics such as “Great Balls of Fire” and “You Win Again.”

“The new set also includes two comprehensive hard-back books which are of a different and complementary character to other publications on Jerry Lee, one of which represents the most impressive collection yet seen of photographs of Lewis during his time at Sun Records, many of which have never before been published,” explains McRae.

In listening to the music, McRae says that he comes away with even a deeper appreciation of “The Killer” and his music. “It’s certainly served to remind me of just how contemporary and timeless his Sun recordings sound, in some cases nearly 60 years after the event. The new material has also served to confirm just how hard Lewis worked at perfecting his craft. No one could have imagined that there were quite so many takes of 'High School Confidential,' now numbered at a couple of dozen, nor certainly quite so many different approaches to the song he tried out," McRae explains. "A new batch of undiscovered, early takes of the song, which proved to be his fourth million-seller, has revealed so much more of the labor involved. Had Jerry Lee just stuck to the instrumentation at this stage and not sung the lyrics, we’d have been heralding not just ‘new alternate takes’ of 'High School Confidential' but a whole new title.”

When it came to naming a favorite track on the set, McRae admits that's an impossible mission but a complete, eight-take sequence of “Invitation To Your Party” from Lewis’ final Sun session in August 1963 is a highlight. “You can witness Lewis painstakingly working to fashion something worthwhile out of Bill Taylor’s song whilst others involved appear to struggle with the arrangement. It’s a wonderful exposition of the hazards of cutting all the instrumentation concurrently, live in the studio.”

Collaborating with Bear Family Records, known for their respect for detail, was a key to the success of the box set.

“Working with [founder] Richard Weize was a rare privilege; on a wider front this man has done more for American roots music than it is possible to imagine," says McRae. "As executive producer of a project, Richard brooks no nonsense but at the same time gives you a lot of scope for accommodating your own ideas; he works for and with the fans, for the fans, and acknowledges that those who’ve spent their lives immersed in the work of a particular artist probably know their stuff, so he lets them get on with it, within a pretty flexible outline.”

Sun Records' Deep Catalog Gets a Spotlight in New Sync Licensing Deal

Hearing the complete Sun years does make one think about the possibilities that might have happened had Lewis not wound up becoming a tabloid subject after word leaked about his marriage to cousin Myra in the spring of 1958. It effectively ended his reign as a rock superstar on the charts (though he did reinvent himself as a country performer in the late 1960s).

“From the point of view of a present-day fan being able to enjoy the music he created at Sun -- and whilst Jerry Lee might himself balk at this notion -- the fact that he was denied commercial success could well be a huge positive,” offers McRae. “Here’s an intriguing might-have-been -- imagine it had not happened that way, and that he’d played all thirty-three dates as originally scheduled on that May 1958 tour, watching 'High School Confidential' climb to the top of the charts. Maybe on his triumphant return to the States a major label would have signed him up and recorded him in the conventional, union-controlled fashion of the day, churning out pop-flavored hits and dispensing with all the outtakes. Would we have ever heard 'Old Black Joe,' 'Night Train to Memphis,' 'The Great Speckled Bird,' and dozens of other songs -- not to mention all the outtakes that we can now enjoy on this box set? I have an idea that Jerry Lee’s ‘fall from grace’ is in itself largely responsible for this incredibly rich heritage.”

British musician Chas Hodges, who worked with Lewis during the later Sun years, feels that the singer was a much stronger artist at the end of his Sun contract than in his commercial heyday. “Jerry Lee went back home and pulled himself back up by sheer hard work. I am sure his mother told him that he had a unique talent and that only by working on that talent would he get back on top," says Hodges. "He did. In 1963, when I toured with him, I believe he was at his best. His piano playing was better than it had ever been.”

Hodges says that even today -- over five decades later -- working with an artist of that magnitude remains a crowning achievement. “Some musicians I have met who have worked with him have said how they didn't enjoy it because you didn't know what he was going to do next. But that was exactly what I did enjoy. The surprise kept you on your toes and was pure excitement. That's another leaf I take out of Jerry Lee’s book to this day.”
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Re: Bear Family 18-CD SUN Box Set (2015)

Postby PirateHook » Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:33 am

A good article and i don't doubt that he has cut 623 tracks on Sun or more. But on the box to be fair there are more than 500 cuts (I haven't count them yet) If you count away false start tracks and chatter + the Undubbed/Overdubbed and different mixings.
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Re: Bear Family 18-CD SUN Box Set (2015)

Postby PeterC » Sun May 01, 2016 8:09 pm

Great review!!

http://www.goldminemag.com/reviews/jerr ... ct-sun-set

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Jerry Lee Lewis at Sun Records: The Collected Works
Bear Family (18-CD Box Set)

5 Stars

By Mike Greenblatt

Subtitled “What the Hell Else Do You Need,” “Jerry Lee Lewis at Sun Records: The Collected Works” is a massive boxed set: 23-plus hours of music spread out over 623 tracks on 18 CDs. And that doesn’t even count the two hardcover books you could totally lose yourself in, as I did for more hours than I care to admit.

Germany’s Bear Family Records is the No. 1 purveyor of boxed sets in the world. Their attention to detail, obvious care and meticulous research in ferreting out every note and recording log, every take, complete with false starts and premature endings, different tempi, between-song grumblings or jokes and that all-out obsession of one Sam Phillips to get just the right sound, has resulted in a document for the ages.

You don’t listen through this thing like you don’t read through an encyclopedia or dictionary. You use it going by the book, so to speak, to cherry-pick nuggets of pure genius. Do it this way and there’s enough material so you can have that sweet shock of first-time recognition for years to come. Hey, you can only hear something for the very first time once. Think of how Phillips must have felt upon dealing with the brash young man! He knew The Killer was more talented than any of his other artists. Hell, he’d tell ‘em to their faces. And he did. He nurtured Jerry Lee and coaxed performances out of him that will still rock 100 years from now. And this is it. This is the unburnished, unadulterated road to hell Jerry Lee knew he was on yet plummeted forward toward anyway after spurning Bible School.

Go ahead. Don’t listen to me. Try tackling all 18 CDs in a row. There is a hypnotic element to it all. The kid from Ferriday, Louisiana, is a natural. Some songs have more than 20 takes. Jerry Lee Lewis is never off-pitch. Never sharp. Never flat. Always perfect. It baffles science. He may flub a word, forget a lyric or drive himself crazy with his own karate chops to the piano keys, spurring himself on to greater heights of lunacy, but he’s always right there. Right on time. Every time.

It becomes a game. You’ll find yourself guessing what he does wrong to merit yet another take. You’ll find yourself rooting for the same song to be sung again. Or not. Mesmerizing. Genius flowering under a benevolent dictator who knows just what he’s after. Besides his own songs, Lewis sings Lead Belly, Hank, Elvis, Little Richard, pre-WWII country songs, gospel, folk music … hell, even “The Marines’ Hymn.” Doesn’t matter. The wiggle in his voice. The advent of Sam’s echo. The reaching, searching and realizing of untold truths. They’re all here. And there couldn’t possibly be a more important rock’n’roll artist to document in such a profound way as Jerry Lee Lewis. Ask him. He’ll tell you the same thing.
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Re: Bear Family 18-CD SUN Box Set (2015)

Postby Chris Davies » Tue May 03, 2016 5:50 pm

I am still saving for the box set. In Fire Ball Mail Baz Gamblin says there are alternative takes of Queenie on the box set. Is this true, or did he mean to say "Let's Talk About Us"?!
:?:
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Re: Bear Family 18-CD SUN Box Set (2015)

Postby PeterC » Tue May 03, 2016 6:11 pm

Chris Davies wrote:I am still saving for the box set. In Fire Ball Mail Baz Gamblin says there are alternative takes of Queenie on the box set. Is this true, or did he mean to say "Let's Talk About Us"?!
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He could've meant anything! Don't take too much notice of Barrie, as often it's the wine talkin' (not him).
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Re: Bear Family 18-CD SUN Box Set (2015)

Postby Chris Davies » Wed May 04, 2016 2:58 pm

PeterC wrote:
Chris Davies wrote:I am still saving for the box set. In Fire Ball Mail Baz Gamblin says there are alternative takes of Queenie on the box set. Is this true, or did he mean to say "Let's Talk About Us"?!
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He could've meant anything! Don't take too much notice of Barrie, as often it's the wine talkin' (not him).


Right! :D But the question, alternates of Little Queenie?
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