Bear Family - Southern roots the original sessions



Re: Bear Family - Southern roots the original sessions

Postby PeterC » Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:35 pm

Safc1973 wrote:Good review by Douglas McPherson in this months country music people
Strange choice of album for cmp to reveiw considering its a jazz album :shock:


Jazz album? It's probably more of a soul album than anything, though there are of course also hints of rock & roll, rhythm & blues, gospel & country, among other genres (I can't hear any jazz though!).
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Re: Bear Family - Southern roots the original sessions

Postby Ulli » Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:05 pm

PeterC wrote:
Safc1973 wrote:Good review by Douglas McPherson in this months country music people
Strange choice of album for cmp to reveiw considering its a jazz album :shock:


Jazz album? It's probably more of a soul album than anything, though there are of course also hints of rock & roll, rhythm & blues, gospel & country, among other genres (I can't hear any jazz though!).


Ok, perhaps not much of jazz, but definetely hints of it in 'Blueberry Hill', Big Blue Diamonds' and 'Margie'.
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Re: Bear Family - Southern roots the original sessions

Postby PeterC » Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:18 pm

I suppose it depends how you define jazz... to me this is just New Orleans rhythm 'n' blues (I certainly wouldn't call Fats Domino a jazz act). Definitely more of a soul album than anything though... certainly more a soul album than "Soul My Way"!
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Re: Bear Family - Southern roots the original sessions

Postby Ulli » Thu Sep 05, 2013 6:08 pm

PeterC wrote:I suppose it depends how you define jazz... to me this is just New Orleans rhythm 'n' blues (I certainly wouldn't call Fats Domino a jazz act). Definitely more of a soul album than anything though.


I agree. But parts of BH and BBD are 'Old Time' and that's Jazz. But I never would call it a Jazz album. If we have to label it, then Soul.
Fats was / is in my eyes a Rhythm'n'Blues and Rock'n'Roll act, but sometimes, especially live in the long instrumental solos, he gets pretty jazzy.
That is what makes them so special - you can't label artists like JLL or FD on only one style - they are stylists themselves.
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Re: Bear Family - Southern roots the original sessions

Postby martin bates » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:24 pm

Ulli wrote:
PeterC wrote:I suppose it depends how you define jazz... to me this is just New Orleans rhythm 'n' blues (I certainly wouldn't call Fats Domino a jazz act). Definitely more of a soul album than anything though.


I agree. But parts of BH and BBD are 'Old Time' and that's Jazz. But I never would call it a Jazz album. If we have to label it, then Soul.
Fats was / is in my eyes a Rhythm'n'Blues and Rock'n'Roll act, but sometimes, especially live in the long instrumental solos, he gets pretty jazzy.
That is what makes them so special - you can't label artists like JLL or FD on only one style - they are stylists themselves.


spot on; I was talking to a pianist the other day - he was playing where Monica & I went for our aniversarry meal - ahhh- & was off to play cruises for a short period then returning to do some session work with Beverly Knight ....we agreed most 'music lovers' may have a particular favourite style, but are generally open to all other sorts and that's true of all the great performers, I think - and partly why they retain a strong appeal. Interesting in the original post that CMP were reviewing the album. Douglas Mc P must have been writing for them for many years now, and was probably interested in the new release; when the original album came out it did very well in the country charts- despite the contents , probably the least country he'd done at that time.

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Re: Bear Family - Southern roots the original sessions

Postby Safc1973 » Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:29 pm

martin bates wrote:
Ulli wrote:
PeterC wrote:I suppose it depends how you define jazz... to me this is just New Orleans rhythm 'n' blues (I certainly wouldn't call Fats Domino a jazz act). Definitely more of a soul album than anything though.


I agree. But parts of BH and BBD are 'Old Time' and that's Jazz. But I never would call it a Jazz album. If we have to label it, then Soul.
Fats was / is in my eyes a Rhythm'n'Blues and Rock'n'Roll act, but sometimes, especially live in the long instrumental solos, he gets pretty jazzy.
That is what makes them so special - you can't label artists like JLL or FD on only one style - they are stylists themselves.


spot on; I was talking to a pianist the other day - he was playing where Monica & I went for our aniversarry meal - ahhh- & was off to play cruises for a short period then returning to do some session work with Beverly Knight ....we agreed most 'music lovers' may have a particular favourite style, but are generally open to all other sorts and that's true of all the great performers, I think - and partly why they retain a strong appeal. Interesting in the original post that CMP were reviewing the album. Douglas Mc P must have been writing for them for many years now, and was probably interested in the new release; when the original album came out it did very well in the country charts- despite the contents , probably the least country he'd done at that time.

Martin.


Just googled where the album peaked & can you beileve it peaked at number 6 in billboard :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Re: Bear Family - Southern roots the original sessions

Postby PeterC » Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:30 pm

martin bates wrote:spot on; I was talking to a pianist the other day - he was playing where Monica & I went for our aniversarry meal - ahhh- & was off to play cruises for a short period then returning to do some session work with Beverly Knight ....we agreed most 'music lovers' may have a particular favourite style, but are generally open to all other sorts and that's true of all the great performers, I think - and partly why they retain a strong appeal.


The same applies to Queen; original thought of as a heavy metal band (particularly in the USA), but their music encompasses rock, glam, pop, funk, electronic & rockabilly, as well as opera & classical influences. Almost certainly the most diverse rock / pop act of all time, even more so than The Beatles.

martin bates wrote:Interesting in the original post that CMP were reviewing the album. Douglas Mc P must have been writing for them for many years now, and was probably interested in the new release; when the original album came out it did very well in the country charts- despite the contents , probably the least country he'd done at that time.


What number did it reach? I've never seen a country album chart listing for Jerry, but the album was a complete flop in the US pop album charts... and the single 'Meat Man' didn't sell much either.
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Re: Bear Family - Southern roots the original sessions

Postby PeterC » Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:31 pm

Safc1973 wrote:Just googled where the album peaked & can you beileve it peaked at number 6 in billboard :shock: :shock: :shock:


What, on the jazz charts? :wink:
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Re: Bear Family - Southern roots the original sessions

Postby Safc1973 » Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:00 pm

PeterC wrote:
Safc1973 wrote:Just googled where the album peaked & can you beileve it peaked at number 6 in billboard :shock: :shock: :shock:


What, on the jazz charts? :wink:


No country charts :lol: :wink:
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Re: Bear Family - Southern roots the original sessions

Postby Safc1973 » Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:17 pm

Mind one of the songs I play constantly off this album ' that old bourbon street church'

Great tune if you listen carefully there a little touch of the theme tune minder in there well I think i can hear it anyway ( minder is a uk tv programme about a rouge car trader )
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Re: Bear Family - Southern roots the original sessions

Postby martin bates » Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:42 pm

PeterC wrote:
martin bates wrote:spot on; I was talking to a pianist the other day - he was playing where Monica & I went for our aniversarry meal - ahhh- & was off to play cruises for a short period then returning to do some session work with Beverly Knight ....we agreed most 'music lovers' may have a particular favourite style, but are generally open to all other sorts and that's true of all the great performers, I think - and partly why they retain a strong appeal.


The same applies to Queen; original thought of as a heavy metal band (particularly in the USA), but their music encompasses rock, glam, pop, funk, electronic & rockabilly, as well as opera & classical influences. Almost certainly the most diverse rock / pop act of all time, even more so than The Beatles.

martin bates wrote:Interesting in the original post that CMP were reviewing the album. Douglas Mc P must have been writing for them for many years now, and was probably interested in the new release; when the original album came out it did very well in the country charts- despite the contents , probably the least country he'd done at that time.


What number did it reach? I've never seen a country album chart listing for Jerry, but the album was a complete flop in the US pop album charts... and the single 'Meat Man' didn't sell much either.


well , the question has already been answered..but do you mean you've never seen any chart listing or just 'Southern Roots' ? All his albums in the day were country hits , and (like Southern Roots) even the Session went high in the charts despite it's content. 'Best Of' was on the charts for about 8 months.
- and yes Queen were terrific, although I've not heard anything like their full catalogue, but what's in the public domain is impressive.
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Re: Bear Family - Southern roots the original sessions

Postby PeterC » Sun Sep 08, 2013 5:12 pm

I've never seen any country album chart listing; I pretty much always rely on the book "Killer!" for any JLL chart info, and country album chart positions aren't in that.
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Re: Bear Family - Southern roots the original sessions

Postby Dave McKee » Sun Sep 08, 2013 6:02 pm

Fireball Mail used to keep fans informed of Jerry's abum chart placings.
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Re: Bear Family - Southern roots the original sessions

Postby martin bates » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:03 pm

i used to follow the charts myself,so i can remember his albums fared well alongside his hit singles. tony papard's website had some info and I would imagine Paul's books do.I don't have them but his excellent Carl Perkins book shows chart placings as they happened.
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Re: Bear Family - Southern roots the original sessions

Postby Maarten K. » Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:10 pm

Four stars in Dutch music magazine Revolver's Lust For Live.
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